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McAllister: “Arr, I’m in a lotta trouble now. Hey, I’ll give ya a hundred bucks if you’ll take the blame.”
“Yar, I hate the sea and everything in it”
When I heard that they were pulled free by a fishing trawler, I had an image from Jaws, “You’re gonna need a bigger boat!” [youtube.com]
Is “OceanExplorer” ship owned by “OceanGate”? That was my first thought when I read TFS…
I guess not since OceanGate’s OceanExplorer is now gone as I understand it but maybe they re-pivoted with a new OceanExplorer with a comparable amount of success, who knows for sure?
Aussie to Greenland, thats a long cruise.
Aussie to Greenland, thats a long cruise.
Aussie to Greenland, thats a long cruise.
Yep, and they likely burned a lot of diesel fuel getting there. Coming up to reduce CO2 emissions are nuclear powered cruise ships.
https://www.cruisehive.com/shi… [cruisehive.com]
That problem could be overcome, but a bigger problem is that it is a valuable target. Nuclear powered naval vessels are accompanied by additional vessels which can defend them.
it is a valuable target
it is a valuable target
Not necessarily. It’s quite possible to power such a ship [wikipedia.org] with lower grade fuel which has no weapons application. Sink it as a terrorist act? Good. A great place for an abandoned reactor vessel is on the sea floor [wikipedia.org].
No significant amount of nuclear material ever has NO weapons application. Even if all you do is use a conventional explosive to spread it across a sizable area it is effective.
Not really. We’ve done that. And beyond a few days, it had negligible effects [raxcdn.com]. Many people [wikipedia.org] went to ground zero immediately following the blast and suffered no ill consequences.
There have been nuclear cruse ships in the past. What I don’t see is the cost being justified. Cruse ships don’t have a long lives compared to other ships. An the profit margins are very thin as it is.
Nuclear is not green nor neutral.
Yes it is. With the exception of a few countries and some trolls on slashdot, nuclear is considered a valuable item to fight climate change. The toxic waste issue were address decades ago and a very manage. As for Fukushima, the water release, and Chernobyl. Those have been address satisfactory severl times over. But I do agree that a nuclear powered cruse ship isn’t really something to pursue right now.
Nuclear is not green nor neutral.
Yes it is. With the exception of a few countries and some trolls on slashdot, nuclear is considered a valuable item to fight climate change. The toxic waste issue were address decades ago and a very manage. As for Fukushima, the water release, and Chernobyl. Those have been address satisfactory severl times over. But I do agree that a nuclear powered cruse ship isn’t really something to pursue right now.
The toxic waste issue were address decades ago and a very manage. As for Fukushima, the water release, and Chernobyl. Those have been address satisfactory severl times over.
The toxic waste issue were address decades ago and a very manage. As for Fukushima, the water release, and Chernobyl. Those have been address satisfactory severl times over.
Citation requested.
There you go. There is more if you need it. I know its a wikipidia article but there is plenty more out there. Just do a search on google for nuclear waste reprocessing. There is a excellent documentary on youtube too.
I see your wikipedia reference and I’ll call your hand, (a poker reference): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… [wikipedia.org]
Yeah, long term storage has been address. Nuclear waste isn’t a big problem as people make it out to be.
You don’t seem to understand physics, do you? You fail to cite any substantial studies to dispute the long-term physics and management of extremely dangerous nuclear waste. The wikipedia reference you referenced only discusses some mitigation efforts. Nuclear energy is not a panacea, due to its substantial long-term waste issues, of which several citations exist within this thread. Hell, nuclear isn’t even cost-effective. Let nuclear die, as it has been doing given economics, risks, and historical disasters
Okay, let’s do it this way. It’s been addressed. Discussion over.
Nuclear waste reprocessing makes nuclear even more expensive, which makes it a non-starter when the systems are not owned by the state. It also does NOT eliminate waste.
what ever troll. You know its not, I know its not. Lets just end this here.
Troll calls me troll, yawn.
You’re not just a troll though. You’re a liar.
Let me see which one of us has been caught lying so many times they had a warning attached to their account? Hint, it wasn’t me. Here let’s ramp this up to the next level and get it over with.
Go to hell you god damn fucking moron. We’re tired of your FUD, your fucking lies and you just making fucking trouble around here. Nobody gives two goat fucks around your childish fears. You don’t like nuclear fine, now fuck off. Am while you are fucking off, turn left on fuck off lane, and keep fucking off
Let me see which one of us has been caught lying so many times they had a warning attached to their account?
Let me see which one of us has been caught lying so many times they had a warning attached to their account?
[citation needed]
We’re tired of your FUD, your fucking lies and you just making fucking trouble around here.
We’re tired of your FUD, your fucking lies and you just making fucking trouble around here.
I am proud that you believe I’m a troublemaker, but I don’t FUD and I don’t lie. I don’t need to. Reality has a well-known liberal bias, remember?
The 112 passengers and 94 crew on the Australian tour operator’s cruise had set off from Norway on 2 September and were due to return on 22 September.
The 112 passengers and 94 crew on the Australian tour operator’s cruise had set off from Norway on 2 September and were due to return on 22 September.
Now this is the tale of the castways, they’re here for a long, long time, they’ll have to make the best of things, it’s an uphill climb. The first mate and the Skipper too, will do their very best, to make the others comfortable, in the tropic island nest. No phone, no lights no motor cars, not a single luxury, like Robinson Crusoe, as primative as can be. So join us here each week my freinds, you’re sure to get a smile, from seven stranded castways, here on “Gilligan’s Isle.”
Don’t Greenlanders go south for the summer?
Asking for a friend
I would imagine that a ship as fancy as this would have some kind of radar or depth sensing capability.
I know nothing about boats. Genuinely curious.
Well, with tides and whatnot the water level changes over time, of course. There could be a shallower stretch that they thought they could navigate during high tide, but the transit took longer than expected for whatever reason. Or someone simply miscalculated.
This is the truth. All the fancy equipment in the world doesn’t stop someone from just reading it wrong.
I would imagine that a ship as fancy as this would have some kind of radar or depth sensing capability.
I would imagine that a ship as fancy as this would have some kind of radar or depth sensing capability.
People thought similar things about the Titanic too but it seems to remain a general rule that no amount of technology can overcome our capacity for human error.
People thought the Titanic, a boat built in 1912, had “some kind of radar or depth sensing capability.”? No they didn’t.
They did have methods to test depth in 1912.
Now I’m curious. What is the procedure for when a boat or ship runs aground. What happens after they pull it off? I assume it must undergo some lengthy stay in dry dock to make sure the hull wasn’t compromised in some manner.
Ships don’t stop suddenly. There are no brakes. So you are going ahead at a reasonable speed and the depth sounder says the bottom is rising, then it rises suddenly, as in sand bar. You stop the engines or even put them into reverse, but momentum carries you forward and whomp. Oops, stuck.
Even trolling across a fresh water lake it’s quite common to see the bottom come up ten feet in the length of the boat. Too deep to see the bottom, then there is the bottom, then oh shit, reverse now. And then the sand cru
Atrocious. Leave the captain there. Unemployed, in Greenland.
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